Where should the Survival Village be?

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Where should the Survival Village be? Dec 8, 2014 15:20:30 GMT

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Post by Admin on Dec 8, 2014 15:20:30 GMT

We had originally earmarked Fordham Park for this which is about a 5 minute walk from the Albany.

Pros are

- lots of space,
next door to two of the schools we want to access with out outreach
we have someone trying to get us two shipping containers which we can build on/around
both soft and hard surfaces to build on
slightly away from main built up areas
forms one end of our "creative corridor" (with the Deptford Lounge [the big gold building] at the other

Cons are

very exposed and muddy if weather is horrible
a bit more of a schlep from the albany and the hub of other activity
would be more difficult to keep secure overnight

There is also a suggestion that we could do it in Douglas Square, which is the square (which formed part of the market on Saturday) directly adjacent to the Albany instead

What are your thoughts on whether park space or a paved square (surrounded on 3 sides with brick walls - so more enclosed, less exposed, easier to protect) would lend itself best to the Survival Village build?

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Where should the Survival Village be? Dec 10, 2014 12:46:44 GMT

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Post by Cecilia on Dec 10, 2014 12:46:44 GMT

In no particular order or structure, here are a few (additional) questions to make a decision:

What are the activities that go on in the creative corridor that will make sure people actually move around and through to the survival village if it's in Fordham Park?

Will there be any marketing activity in the weeks(s) leading up to the festival to make sure EVERYONE knows that Fordham park will be THE PLACE to be?

How big space do we actually need? (we'll have to sort of map out the space for this)

Would the containers fit in Douglas Square?

Where are we more likely to be allowed to have a fire going? (because yes, I'm still really keen on that!)

A paved square means it's more accessible (rather than pushing wheelchairs across mud) - however this could be rectified in Fordham Park by temporary access.

Where can we create the best sense of place and "village"?

Where are we likely to have the largest footfall of people (not only of visitors purposefully going to the village, but also passers-by)

Also, who is currently responsible for designing signposting and wayfinding and general publishing/marketing material to make sure people KNOW the festival is on (and locations to be!) Flyer maps, large maps, programs etc.?

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Where should the Survival Village be? Dec 12, 2014 11:52:02 GMT

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Post by Admin on Dec 12, 2014 11:52:02 GMT

These are all really useful questions to think about as we make the decision.

From what I already know:

a) - there probably wont be a huge amount to link us to fordham park without spending a lot of money that we don't particularly have. We do want to use it for a firework display on Moment of Impact Day but on that day there will be a (zombie) procession down to the park. From this point of view Douglas Square is much more visible to the general footfall and passing trade of people in Deptford

b) if we do stiuck with the park it will be clearly marked and mapped on all of our programmes and flyers

c) don't know yet!

d) doubt if containers would fit in douglas square - or maybe only one, but they are not yet confirmed in any case

e) I would imagine a fire would be more permissible in the park on safety grounds as it is less built up, but I am wondering if the fire could be contained in something structural to make it less of a hazard? NB I ALSO LOVE THE IDEA OF A FIRE my brother is a senior officer in the Scottish Fire Service so I'll ask if he has any ideas for creating a "safe" fire. - he will probably tell me there is no such thing

f) yes paved is more accessible but we also need to check we wouldn't be impinging on market space during market day

g) best sense of place and village - the park feels more "round the campfire" but the square is surrounded on 3 sides by walls which could make it feel contained and therefore villagey.

h) definitely more footfall at douglas square I think

i) marketing strategy we are getting onto today!

Best wishes

Lindsay

Dec 10, 2014 12:46:44 GMT Cecilia said:

In no particular order or structure, here are a few (additional) questions to make a decision:

What are the activities that go on in the creative corridor that will make sure people actually move around and through to the survival village if it's in Fordham Park?

Will there be any marketing activity in the weeks(s) leading up to the festival to make sure EVERYONE knows that Fordham park will be THE PLACE to be?

How big space do we actually need? (we'll have to sort of map out the space for this)

Would the containers fit in Douglas Square?

Where are we more likely to be allowed to have a fire going? (because yes, I'm still really keen on that!)

A paved square means it's more accessible (rather than pushing wheelchairs across mud) - however this could be rectified in Fordham Park by temporary access.

Where can we create the best sense of place and "village"?

Where are we likely to have the largest footfall of people (not only of visitors purposefully going to the village, but also passers-by)

Also, who is currently responsible for designing signposting and wayfinding and general publishing/marketing material to make sure people KNOW the festival is on (and locations to be!) Flyer maps, large maps, programs etc.?

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Where should the Survival Village be? Dec 12, 2014 11:53:33 GMT

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Post by Admin on Dec 12, 2014 11:53:33 GMT

Just to add quickly - here are Ella & Nicki's thoughts on the survival village from the introductory page for discussion and thoughts:

Hi Linsey,

[We went for a walk down Deptford High Street after we left on Saturday. The discussions in the collaboration day that we had were about how the high street shows allot about what makes up the community in that area. We spoke about how in the Survival Village and how it might be good to show parts of every day life and community that we shouldn't forget, this could be in the form of a collection of recordings that are held in a shop at the centre of the village.
Our work is about meeting people and documenting our conversations, we thought that this might be a good place to start when looking at what to collect for this archive.
Wyn had spoken about a design team that might be able to construct the shop as we work on the content.

It would be good to know everyone's thoughts on this.

Ella and Nicki.]

Read more: smashfestuk.freeforums.net/thread/2/say-hello-smashfest-first-generation#ixzz3LgRrXO3c

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Where should the Survival Village be? Dec 12, 2014 12:45:31 GMT

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Post by Cecilia on Dec 12, 2014 12:45:31 GMT

Just a question - would it be possible to also use the green area at the back of the Albany?

e) for fires, we were talking about having a brazier/braziers as that is something that will effectively contain the fire and it also has really strong associations with unity and community as they were used to keep people warm during strikes. So that might be an idea?

Another question - if we want to keep it in Douglas Square, how will we solve security in terms of ensuring nobody destroys/steals things overnight?

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Where should the Survival Village be? Dec 12, 2014 13:39:51 GMT

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Post by Admin on Dec 12, 2014 13:39:51 GMT

Outside at the Albany is definitely a possibility. The reason we hadn't gone for it earlier was because of the lack of visibility so we wouldn't necessarily get "passing trade" as it were which we were hoping for to build the village community.

The idea of a brazier is a good one though.

Dec 12, 2014 12:45:31 GMT Cecilia said:

Just a question - would it be possible to also use the green area at the back of the Albany?

e) for fires, we were talking about having a brazier/braziers as that is something that will effectively contain the fire and it also has really strong associations with unity and community as they were used to keep people warm during strikes. So that might be an idea?

Another question - if we want to keep it in Douglas Square, how will we solve security in terms of ensuring nobody destroys/steals things overnight?

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Where should the Survival Village be? Dec 15, 2014 14:02:56 GMT

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Post by Jenny Edbrooke (Artist) on Dec 15, 2014 14:02:56 GMT

Although I love the idea of Fordham Park, it might be too far away and become a bit separated from the other activities… Douglas square might literally be a middle ground with most footfall. Would we be using the back green space at The Albany for other things, like the grand meteorite building experiment and such things?! otherwise that would be the best spot to keep Survival village more neatly contained, safe and practically sensible…. but fordham park feels better!!

Admin Administrator Posts: 13	Where should the Survival Village be? Dec 20, 2014 13:14:00 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Admin on Dec 20, 2014 13:14:00 GMT I think you're right Jenny - going to check out Douglad Square viability and availability. Not sure if its used by the market on a Wednesday, so need to find out.